Subject	It depends on which measure of efficiency you are
Posted by	Ash's Z on July 03, 2006 at 2:26 PM
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In Reply To	Not really. posted by Kenny on July 03, 2006 at 02:20 PM
Message	interested in. The efficiency you are looking at is the thermal efficiency, which is different than the volumetric efficiency. I'm more interested in volumetric efficiency as it quantifies the effectiveness of the "pumping" aspect of the engine, which gives you a much better idea of how well the engine will be able to make use of its displacement. [ ashspecz.com ] [ agpowers@bellsouth.net ] Enthusiasts soon understand each other. --W. Irving. Are you an enthusiast? If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor. Albert Einstein
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Its a lot of the driving mechanism within - Ash's Z 14:41:43 07/03/06 are you not aware that the actual term is... - Spee 14:51:16 07/03/06 I'm sorry - I didn't know that intensive or purposes were - Ash's Z 16:18:28 07/03/06 They are, but you've been misusing them. - Kenny 16:56:09 07/03/06 He lives in a house of cards - colocomp (Denver) 16:25:59 07/03/06 Resorting to personal attacks is, well......... - Ash's Z 16:36:19 07/03/06 Truth = Truth - colocomp (Denver) 16:44:29 07/03/06 Opinion =/= Truth. - Ash's Z 17:08:23 07/03/06 Perception - - colocomp (Denver) 17:25:29 07/03/06 You are aware you look like an ass from your posts right? - Riddick 10:55:21 07/04/06 lol - colocomp (Denver) 11:09:04 07/04/06 I heard from a Nissan Master tech that the Nissan GT-R - The Devils Z 09:44:38 07/03/06 you need to stop hearing things. - Spee 12:49:14 07/03/06 All things being equal, it wouldn't matter if it were a - Ash's Z 14:31:37 07/03/06 exactly my point. - Spee 14:36:43 07/03/06 Well, Dee and I have had many conversations about engine - Ash's Z 16:26:57 07/03/06 How many other motors that have "non iron" blocks - The Devils Z 10:14:33 07/04/06 I read in a magazine that over 450,000 Z33's have been sold. - jmw23712 10:52:30 07/03/06 Please refrain from using the "power per liter" argument - Marshall 13:12:21 07/03/06 Ash's brain makes 10 IQ/liter. (n/m) - Kenny 14:15:01 07/03/06 Well, it is a rather effective parameter to consider when - Ash's Z 14:15:56 07/03/06 Not really. - Kenny 14:20:43 07/03/06 It depends on which measure of efficiency you are - Ash's Z 14:26:10 07/03/06 lol - Kenny 14:32:28 07/03/06 They are much closer than I think you are giving credit for. - Ash's Z 14:54:14 07/03/06 So in conclusion, they aren't synonymous. - Kenny 15:37:33 07/03/06 They are synonymous. - Ash's Z 16:09:03 07/03/06 Again, they are not. - Kenny 16:52:50 07/03/06 Re: Again, they are not. - Ash's Z 18:35:45 07/03/06 So in conclusion: - Kenny 19:07:00 07/03/06 Re: So in conclusion: - Ash's Z 15:59:40 07/04/06 The Z32 was designed and engineered to compete with - golden_1 01:58:40 07/03/06 if anything, the Z33 is the "sell out" of the Z cars - LJZTT 02:08:35 07/03/06 I like the 350z because its a z, but for sure 3Z > 350 - trueyungasian 02:21:37 07/03/06 Take what they say with a grain of salt - trueyungasian 02:30:15 07/03/06 i had this debate with most of zhome.com, including the - davidztt 03:18:02 07/03/06 I don't recall that debate, and I've been on the IZCC - Barry'z (NJ) 08:25:14 07/03/06 simple, happened before 5 years ago, Jimbo brought me over - davidztt 16:24:19 07/03/06 Ive driven a couple 350s - Ballistic 08:49:16 07/03/06 Wow what a burn... 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